Added: Nov 23, 2008
From: LaneCh
Duration: 59:39
"Claims of revival must always be made in the light of Scripture so that we can determine whether this is a true movement of the Holy Spirit that points to Christ, or if it's a counterfeit.With this thought in mind, Ingrid Schlueter welcomed Pastor Ken Silva of http://www.apprising.org. Joining him was Pastor Jon Sharp, the pastor of The Way Christian Fellowship in McCamey, Texas. These pastors joined Ingrid to discuss the alleged revival in Lakeland, Florida.There are numerous theological and doctrinal problems with this alleged "revival" that are discussed by the pastors, problems that are highlighted by audio clips presented by Ingrid. One clip has Todd Bentley claiming that gold teeth are appearing in his followers. Another mentions how he was ordered by Holy Spirit to kick an "elderly worshiper" in the face! One makes contradictory statements about the source of the "anointing," while other clip exposes the overemphasis on angels."(Commentary from Crosstalk.)Download an mp3 of the program:http://67.36.84.226/crosstalk2/ct080606.mp3http://www.crosstalkamerica.com
Channel: Education
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step7206 Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - The wise in heart will be called understanding, And sweetness of speech increases persuasiveness.Understanding is a fountain of life to one who has it, But the discipline of fools is folly.The heart of the wise instructs his mouth And adds persuasiveness to his lips.Pleasant words are a honeycomb, Sweet to the soul and healing to the bones.There is a way which seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death.(Proverbs 16:21-25)
step7206 Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - Leave the presence of a fool, Or you will not discern words of knowledge.The wisdom of the sensible is to understand his way, But the foolishness of fools is deceit.Fools mock at sin, But among the upright there is good will.The heart knows its own bitterness, And a stranger does not share its joy.The house of the wicked will be destroyed, But the tent of the upright will flourish.There is a way which seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death.(Proverbs 14:6-12)
step7206 Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - The naive believes everything, But the sensible man considers his steps.A wise man is cautious and turns away from evil, But a fool is arrogant and careless.A quick-tempered man acts foolishly, And a man of evil devices is hated.The naive inherit foolishness, But the sensible are crowned with knowledge.(Proverbs 14:15-18)
step7206 Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - Now for this very reason also, applying all diligence, in your faith supply moral excellence, and in your moral excellence, knowledge,and in your knowledge, self-control, and in your self-control, perseverance, and in your perseverance, godliness,and in your godliness, brotherly kindness, and in your brotherly kindness, love.For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they render you neither useless nor unfruitful in the true knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
step7206 Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - (cont.) For he who lacks these qualities is blind or short-sighted, having forgotten his purification from his former sins.(2 Peter 1:5-9)But He gives a greater grace. Therefore it says, "GOD IS OPPOSED TO THE PROUD, BUT GIVES GRACE TO THE HUMBLE."Submit therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded.
step7206 Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - (cont.)Be miserable and mourn and weep; let your laughter be turned into mourning and your joy to gloom.Humble yourselves in the presence of the Lord, and He will exalt you.(James 4:6-10)And finally, our Lord Himself said, ""Whoever then humbles himself as this child, he is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 18:3)
vinoboyle Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - Blessed be the name of Jesus! step7206I wouldn't even try to comment on your response to ravenwolf789, I couldn't add one jot or tittle to your very scriptural and true answer! If he doesn't get what the Lord Jesus Christ is saying to him through you, his heart is hardened, pray that through His mercy, He will soften it.
vinoboyle Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - John Crowder tells the same story about a glass eyeball, could be!They don't call them lying wonders for nothin!But I'm so sure that this man can't see out of his glass eye that if he can and he can show me, I will cut both of my legs off and my arms!Just because they say it's so, don't mean it's so! That's called arrogance! and that's called lying! and as we all know, "...and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."(Rev 21:8
DekaDude Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - This dude already got ousted for having an affair with a minor. He's a pedo.
step7206 Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - By their fruits.
GeisiaNGesia Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - No one knows the mind of God or how He works. Some of you that TALKS as though you have the landline of God and make all this unnecessary aguement needs to think hard. If you call someone else an agent of satan that means you yourself have connections with the very satan. No one knows the mind of God and if God has stopped working then let us all shout up and WORK OUR OWN SALVATION. LET GOD BE TRUE AND ALL MAN BE A LIER!
stormshild Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - Have these people ever seen a move of God for themselves?, if so i would like some examples of a true move of God?I not only wonder what these people who spend there time condeming moves of God, i also wonder what that blind lad thought of the unusual way Jesus chose to heal him when Jesus spat in the dirt and rubbed it into his eyes?To fear deception will only lead to deception, how about we all start believeing God to give us bread rather then snakes?.
Coyne1988 Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - Hey Lane, could you send this to the folks who have commented on my 2- parter, "Drunk in the Spirit", please?
cublop Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - fake faith humans never go be their own to GODthey need a TRUE CHURCH
revelashaun68 Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - I was unaware of this and his views. I take the Holy Bible and line up what it says and this gut is just like "The Word of Faith" movement.We must warn our Brethern in these Last Days!
woundedjl Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - Wesley Spurheon Finney the fruit was conviction repentance and true discipleship.Godliness Rightousness Godly fear Godly life and not irrevrante mocking.
Synthweasel Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - I really dont like seeing certain christinas flock like sheep to the latest trends!! its like a they all want to be entertained??
mosesmikheyev Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - TODD IS ODD. Can someone send him to see a shrink.
Synthweasel Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - Thtas what I thought from the start!! could not believe the amount Christians falling for this!!! and when all this fell apart! those people just kept quiet!! no way was I mr.Negative!! it was so clear there was something wrong about all this! way too hyped up!
Detta456 Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - How dare he!!!
FlynDice Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - That was just wrong.
Rivik616 Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - HE CAN SEE OUT OF A GLASS EYE!! lol wow scripted stuff sukcs lol
xxtinkerbell101 Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - kool stuff god is amazin
georgeatthecross Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - That is not cool stuff that is right from thepit of hell it is false doctrine,These peopleare false shepherds which are deceiving and being deceived.You need to study the word andfind a good bible church that teaches sound doctrine and search your self to see if you are saved.
step7206 Says:
Nov 23, 2008 - Arrogance does not equal knowledge, nor knowledge divinity. That was Satan's folly. If you were as wise as you say, you would know this: God gives grace to the humble, but opposes the proud. You would be a doer of the word, and not only a hearer. You would understand what this means:Pride goes before destruction, And a haughty spirit before stumbling.It is better to be humble in spirit with the lowly Than to divide the spoil with the proud.